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James2011
12-17-2009, 06:23 PM
I was not born in usa,
so, I am curious about this.
why there are so many lazy people in usa?
they have two legs and two arms, but they just stand between traffic lines and waiting some good man to donate some $$ into their basket, they are begging $$, they don't want to work...
There many people who can work, but who don't work, just receive free money and benefits from US Gov....
Why all other hard-working people's tax have to go those lazy people's pocket?
US gov gives free food stamp and $$ for them as well....
I don't understand....
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Newbie123,
I suggest you write your congressman and ask those questions. Perhaps he can explain why half the population is entitled to be supported by the other half.
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Larry, Phd (School of Hard Knocks)
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Originally Posted by newbie123
Larry, can you answer it?
( I can write a letter to senator or congressman or Mr. Obama or Governor..., but I doubt no one will respond ...)
How about starting a new thread and see how many pages we can achieve on this!
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Watching out; for you & your business!!
pressandclean
12-17-2009, 06:42 PM
It's simple! Obama knows. You promise free stuff to poor people to get elected. Then, you promise more free stuff to stay in office.
Where are you from Newbie?
James2011
12-17-2009, 07:43 PM
I agree...
Mr. Obama did promise too much for wrong-people...
but not only him, I think it's America's culture or traditional political dilemma.....
God bless America!, and try to live by bible...but real world is real world....
I think very difficult situation....
BMWHD3060
12-17-2009, 11:05 PM
When I lived in NY, they did an article on a street corner guy that stood on the street corner begging, he reported everthing to the IRS, he was raking in about $285,000.00 a year, drove a New Mercedes Benz & lived in a nice new $250,000.00 home from what I remember.
Jefflange
12-18-2009, 12:12 AM
That must have been along time ago. A good Refrigerator box cost 250k now.
I see plenty of immigrants working the system, they drop there anchor babies and get WIC and free medical care. Low skilled immigrants take more then they give.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1509.cfm
Sudds
12-18-2009, 12:18 AM
This thread is going to get interesting. I must admit you make a valid and true point. For the record though... not all Americans are lazy.
Heck I have a fulltime career, go to school, homework, take care of my house, have a rental, and take care of two mats. My weeks are one giant blurr.
STOUT
12-18-2009, 03:04 AM
That must have been along time ago. A good Refrigerator box cost 250k now.
I see plenty of immigrants working the system, they drop there anchor babies and get WIC and free medical care. Low skilled immigrants take more then they give.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1509.cfm
Jeff;
Very good article. Thanks for exposing this and getting the word out.
A friend of mine pointed out that another consideration is how many immigrants also claim the "earned income credit" and still receive tax $ back?
surfflite
12-18-2009, 09:27 AM
Perhaps it is because of all the illegals in this country. 10's of millions of them stealing our country blind...including our jobs. Add in the fact that a large percentage of homeless resort to alcoholism and are incapable of maintaining steady employment and you can see why some Americans appear lazy. Until they start drug testing welfare recipients and shipping illegals back to their homeland the USA is doomed. Below are some FACTS (undisputed) for just the Los Angeles area:
# 40 percent of all workers in L.A. County (10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
# 95 percent of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
# 75 percent of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
# Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
# Nearly 35 percent of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
# Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
# The FBI estimates half of all gang members in Los Angeles to be illegal aliens from south of the border.
# Nearly 60 percent of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
# 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.
# Of 10.2 million people in L.A. County, 5.1 million speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.
# Less than 2 percent of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29 percent are on welfare.
# Over 70 percent of the United States’ annual population growth (and over 90 percent of California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration.
# 29 percent of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.
Jefflange
12-18-2009, 10:01 AM
The end of America as we know it.
SEFlaundry
12-18-2009, 11:09 AM
It is the goverments fault!
Why is unemplyment for a limited time but welfare can be for a life time????
Why should any health person recieve goverment money for being lazy??
GET A JOB!!!!!
I have met people in my lie that state that they make more money on welfare than wokring so it is a paycut for them to go get a job!
The politicans only care about getting into office and stealing as much as they can!
NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT US!!
the working class!
And on that note have a great day!
Danny
bodman
12-18-2009, 12:09 PM
cynic you all.
James2011
12-18-2009, 12:30 PM
I agree you all,
American Gov needs to be changed.
I think it's fair to give welfair and any benefits to the RIGHT person who deserve them.
Healty person should work, and US Gov should provide their job.
Just Lazy should not be paid.
We, american, like freedom, and respect freedom, but we need to make system fair and justice...
Laundry_Mike
12-18-2009, 02:02 PM
Thank the liberal democrats for the situation our country is in.
STOUT
12-18-2009, 03:52 PM
Thank the liberal democrats for the situation our country is in.
We should also thank the silent majority for not stepping up with their pitchforks and axes demanding something to be done.
Maybe we need a few more persons who are "holding on to their guns and religion" to make changes happen.
rjwarner
12-18-2009, 05:39 PM
A lot of blame the democrats in this forum. And for the most part I can agree....but it seems to me that the Democrats tax and spend while the Republicans have been spending just like drunken sailors and holding to the "don't raise taxes at any cost philosophy."
They both spend too much but the GOP has gone away from the original philosophy of keeping government small.
Personally I would like to see the GOP get back to *strong defense, *small government, *pro business, *low taxes, *pro-life, etc... that was once the platform of the party
Just my personal opinion!
CanCanCase
12-18-2009, 06:50 PM
...Personally I would like to see the GOP get back to *strong defense, *small government, *pro business, *low taxes, *pro-life, etc... that was once the platform of the party
Just my personal opinion!Sounds like the "Reaganomics" that Palin is preaching. Sarah did great things for Alaska - sadly most have been undone since she left office.
...Healty person should work, and US Gov should provide their job....
It is NOT the Government's job to provide jobs. Any job that is "provided" tends to breed the bureaucrat/welfare mentality... that is, people "working" only as much as is necessary to not get fired. That's the basic flaw with any socialist system... there is no motivation for a strong, healthy young man work hard to support others when the old, ready to retire guy isn't doing anything to benefit the young man. When all wealth is equal, and everyone has their entitlement share, there is zero motivation for anyone to try to make things better.
-Case
James2011
12-18-2009, 09:53 PM
Case, I see, it's good point....
Adamski
12-19-2009, 07:19 AM
... Any job that is "provided" tends to breed the bureaucrat/welfare mentality... that is, people "working" only as much as is necessary to not get fired. That's the basic flaw with any socialist system... there is no motivation for a strong, healthy young man work hard to support others when the old, ready to retire guy isn't doing anything to benefit the young man. When all wealth is equal, and everyone has their entitlement share, there is zero motivation for anyone to try to make things better.
Case,
Well said. That is the reason the Soviet Union failed.
Most people, if not all, need something to motivate them to work hard. Usually that motivation is money which they expect will allow a better lifestyle. If the person gets the same amount of money regardless of whether he works hard or just puts out a minimum effort, he'll soon settle into the minimum effort mode. People must be allowed to better themselves through hard work. That can only happen when hard workers are not taxed back down to zero extra money for their extra effort.
j_reform
12-19-2009, 03:24 PM
It is the goverments fault!
Why is unemplyment for a limited time but welfare can be for a life time????
Why should any health person recieve goverment money for being lazy??
GET A JOB!!!!!
I have met people in my lie that state that they make more money on welfare than wokring so it is a paycut for them to go get a job!
The politicans only care about getting into office and stealing as much as they can!
NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT US!!
the working class!
And on that note have a great day!
Danny
Is it really the Government fault or is it OUR fault for allowing OUR Government to do all this stuff? "Evil Triumphs as good men do nothing" - Thomas Jefferson
Jeff
Jefflange
12-19-2009, 05:24 PM
Time for a Laundromat owners Tea Party.
http://teapartypatriots.org/
Brett
12-19-2009, 08:11 PM
WOW. Are all us laundry owners Republicans. I once heard a saying "When you are young if you are not a Democrat you don't have a heart. When you are old if you're not a Republican you don't have a brain." I believe in a hand up, not a hand out. Someone said the goverment should not/could not provide jobs. I agree, the goverments main course of action should be to create and maintain an environment that allows BUISNESS to create jobs. On the other hand if you are able bodied and drawing a check from the goverment, I am not opposed to those people showing up at 7 am in the morning to be issued a broom by the street department. No show, no check...
surfflite
12-21-2009, 11:30 AM
Yes, all business owners are Republicans...and all idiots are Democrats. ;)
how about we end the wars we tax payers are in now... we would save a few trillon $$. Spend that money on schools, and what not.
STOUT
12-21-2009, 10:49 PM
Yes, all business owners are Republicans...and all idiots are Democrats. ;)
Some of us have left the 2 parties above mentioned and gone searching for another.
;)
Jefflange
12-22-2009, 12:04 AM
how about we end the wars we tax payers are in now... we would save a few trillon $$. Spend that money on schools, and what not.
You can spend all the money in the world on schools and if the kid goes home to a crackhead mom and no father its not going to help.