PDA

View Full Version : I know why Larry HATES Stacks!

Howard
08-19-2011, 11:23 AM
I never really understood till yesterday why exactly Larry hates stacks. I had some ideas, but really could not grasp the depth of this feeling. That all changed yesterday when I saw these and realized I too would never want to use them.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6195/6058902877_a4d8c5dc29_z.jpg


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6087/6059440444_7dc485624a_z.jpg
CanCanCase
08-19-2011, 12:40 PM
Boats are stored this way all the time. Efficient use of space, I say!

- Case
Adamski
08-19-2011, 01:47 PM
Boats are stored this way all the time. Efficient use of space, I say!

Case & Howard,

Yeh, boats are racked high and then a huge forklift removes the boat from the rack and gently sets it into the water when the owner wants to go for a boat ride. But what's the deal with the cars? Does a giant forklift remove the car from the rack and set it down on the lot so the owner can go for a car ride?

I like stacks even less after seeing these pictures!
Howard
08-19-2011, 02:11 PM
Larry the platforms are motorized. They drive out the bottom car then lower the second one, drive it away, lower the third one, etc... That is how they make space to park cars in NYC where it is too expensive to just have flat lots in many areas.
Adamski
08-19-2011, 02:50 PM
Larry the platforms are motorized. They drive out the bottom car then lower the second one, drive it away, lower the third one, etc... That is how they make space to park cars in NYC where it is too expensive to just have flat lots in many areas.

Howard,

So let's say, for instance, that my car is on the top (4th) level and I'm ready to go home. Do they drive out the cars from level 1, 2, and 3 in order to allow my car to lower to ground level? Do they then restack the cars back into levels 1, 2, and 3 after I have my car out? This thing sounds like a poor man's parking garage to me.
Howard
08-19-2011, 03:38 PM
It works just like you suggest.
merlin3
08-20-2011, 12:45 AM
PPffffttttt!


Now THIS is a stack.


http://twistedphysics.typepad.com/cocktail_party_physics/images/2007/12/08/volkswagen_autostadt_580x.jpg
Adamski
08-20-2011, 06:47 AM
Randy,

I've seen pictures of this parking structure before. I believe it's located in Japan or China. The cental elevator system allows any car to be "picked" from any parking space without moving any other car first. Finally, a stack that makes sense!
Howard
08-20-2011, 08:26 AM
Randy,

I've seen pictures of this parking structure before. I believe it's located in Japan or China. The cental elevator system allows any car to be "picked" from any parking space without moving any other car first. Finally, a stack that makes sense!


Wow we need that in our stores, it can take the wash directly from any washer and place it in any dryer -- get rid of the damn customers from the process. :)
MrMachine
08-20-2011, 08:59 AM
Things like that foreign stack always look better in theory and photos than reality.

All they need is one key part to go or a power failure, and 1000 people are screwed from getting their car.
laundry8me
08-20-2011, 11:10 AM
Description of the German tower system photo:


<P><B>The Twin Glass Towers and Conveyor System</B></P>

<P>A highlight of Autostadt is the twin car towers built by Krupp Stahlbau
Hannover GmbH, a division of ThyssenKrupp Industries. The two towers are
50-meter-tall glass cylinders, 28 meters in diameter, with a storage capacity
of 400 vehicles each. The concrete was built by Heitkamp, and the heating
and cooling system installed by Kranz TKT.</P>

<P>What is most interesting for readers of ELEVATOR WORLD is the system
which delivers the vehicles from the factory to the two towers and then
to the area where they can be taken by the customer. The two vertical lifts
in each tower were built by Palis Technology Gersthofen, while the horizontal
transportation is achieved by a system of conveyors on which car pallets
carry the vehicles. The conveyor system was built by Mannesmann Dematic
Engineering.</P>

<P>As cars and other vehicles are produced at the Wolfsburg Volkswagen plant,
they are transported to the 20-story towers by way of the conveyor system.
The twin-track rail system can transfer up to 1,000 vehicles a day at a
speed of 1.9m/s over 700 meters with a capacity of 2.5T per pallet. It includes
six rotation plates, 20 Quattro links, four transfer stations and 33 pallets.
Once it reaches the towers, the vehicle is transferred to one of the lifts.</P>

<P>Each tower has two independent elevator systems. Each lift platform,
or shuttle, swivels 180&deg; enabling the two shuttles to each reach one
half of the tower. The vertical lifts travel 47 meters at 2m/s. The shuttle
then transfers the vehicle into its assigned cubicle, as much as 47 meters
above the ground. When a customer purchases a vehicle, the lift is summoned
and retrieves the specified vehicle. The process continues in reverse as
the vehicle is placed back on the conveyor pallet and delivered to the customer
in the pickup area.</P>

<P>The system is fully automated. As vehicles leave the tower to be picked
up by their buyers, new vehicles are delivered to the tower from the factory.</P>
laundry8me
08-20-2011, 11:18 AM
Now check out this link with a video showing an automated parking system in NYC: http://www.automotionparking.com/
mellofelow
08-20-2011, 12:29 PM
Wow... that's amazing! Can't believe these were all conceptual decades ago in futuristic movies and video games.
ldm
08-20-2011, 11:35 PM
Small Scale Stack; I have a friend in the Bay Area, CA. He helps build garages for the folks in SF that live on these hills. He showed me a million dollar plus project where there were four side by side two stacker units in the back of a garage with parking in front one deep. He said the guy has enough cars to fill them up...good grief.