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MrMachine
12-06-2011, 12:51 PM
And the news is.....JOBS! LOT'S of 'em...
More news is.....Lower energy costs
More news is.....Less dependance on countries who hate us
The shale gas/oil thing (yes, they also can extract oil from shale) is this country's best ticket out of this terrible recession.
Will the environmentalists like it? Of course not. They don't like ANY carbon based fuel source. But until they can come up with a VIABLE alternative energy source, shale gas is the way to go for now.
With a 15 TRILLION dollar debt, we don't need any more Solyndras do we?
Here is a non-partisan study:
http://press.ihs.com/press-release/energy-power/shale-gas-supports-more-600000-american-jobs-today-2015-shale-gas-predict
We could even become an energy exporting country. Wouldn't that be nice?
Something no one even dreamed about only a couple of years ago.
So it's basically, technology and private enterprise that will save our butts. Not the govt. Not our politicians, and certainly not the left wing.
Yet, we all know that they will try to claim credit.
I am all for drilling.
In certain places.
I cannot agree with the current NY 300' drilling guidelines
within a residence.
Hell, my driveway is 900' and that is way to close to any residential property.
There is more than enough empty barren land out there to drill on.
MrMachine
12-06-2011, 03:09 PM
I am all for drilling.
In certain places.
I cannot agree with the current NY 300' drilling guidelines
within a residence.
Hell, my driveway is 900' and that is way to close to any residential property.
There is more than enough empty barren land out there to drill on.
KJ,
Can't argue with that.
No one in their right mind would want any kind of commercial or industrial enterprise located only 300' from their home, let alone a shale operation.
canon
12-06-2011, 05:54 PM
Now let's hope what they are using in that frac water doesn't kill us so we can enjoy the benefits!
MrMachine
12-06-2011, 06:33 PM
Now let's hope what they are using in that frac water doesn't kill us so we can enjoy the benefits!
I agree Canon, but I certainly wouldn't worry about it (unless they are drilling 300' from my home. I must admit, that sounds ridiculous. There must be a reason that NYS allows that considering the tremendous pressure they are under from the environmentalists. Could it be that the risk is nil?).
There is a lot of fear-mongering concerning Fracking.
A lot of people don't realize that Fracking has been going on for over 40 years already.
The ONLY time it poses any kind of pollution hazard is if the pipe casing ruptures. This is very rare, and when that does happen they can just stop pumping the water. Plus the rupture must be near the level of the aquifer. Still, the actual amount of water that might leak into the aquifers is very small and the chemicals are dilute. The shale is located THOUSANDS of feet below the aquifers at different strata levels if they are even near them in the first place.
Even so, NYS in their "deal" with these drillers, are making them use double-walled casings.
We have many thousands of gasoline stations located throughout our society, as well as buried heating oil tanks. Not many people get riled up about them, yet they pose more of a hazard to our water supply.
Howard
12-07-2011, 07:32 AM
Not sure 300' should be an issue. If you go out west you see oil dericks all over the place quietly pumping oil out of the ground. I think you would be less concerned if you knew all the things that currently go on underground within 300' of many people's homes.
Not sure 300' should be an issue. If you go out west you see oil dericks all over the place quietly pumping oil out of the ground. I think you would be less concerned if you knew all the things that currently go on underground within 300' of many people's homes.
Would you really want heavy equipment excavating, building a platform, hundreds of trucks carrying supplies, millions of gallons of fracking fluid, round the clock drilling, all to build that quiet gas well 100 paces from your house?
Most people don't know what goes into building a gas well.
We have Fracking operations 30 miles south of us.
Howard
12-07-2011, 11:48 AM
KJ, you are correct I have no clue what is involved, I assumed it was the same as drilling an oil well or laying a sewer pipe - once it is done the stuff just flows. Is that incorrect?
It is getting there that is the problem.
http://www.vanityfair.com/business/features/2010/06/fracking-in-pennsylvania-201006
MrMachine
12-07-2011, 03:52 PM
Here's an informative article giving the pros and cons of fracking with a minimum of bias.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/coal-oil-gas/top-10-myths-about-natural-gas-drilling-6386593#fbIndex3
mjwalsh
01-26-2012, 12:17 PM
Would you really want heavy equipment excavating, building a platform, hundreds of trucks carrying supplies, millions of gallons of fracking fluid, round the clock drilling, all to build that quiet gas well 100 paces from your house?
Most people don't know what goes into building a gas well.
We have Fracking operations 30 miles south of us.
KJ & others,
I am sure most of you have heard of the Western North Dakota Activity --- the number is probably closer to thousands of trucks coming & going. The humongous pipelines do & can play an even greater role in the future. The supervision of the fracking water is the very intense focus of many --- in relation to specific areas slightly to the west of us.
mike walsh king koin of bismarck