independent tests of high G washers

[Xiong]

Originally Posted by laundrychris

I won't comment specifically about dry times or equipment. I will offer you MY experiment. I took a load of sheets (33 lbs weighed dry), ran them through 2 rinses so they were thoroughly saturated, then extracted them at 220 g-force for a 6 minute spin cycle. I did the exact same thing again, this time extracting at 350g-force. The difference in weight between these was 1lb. That is 1lb of water that must be evaporated in the dryer. I didn't bother testing the difference between 100g and 350 as my little test told me enough-g-force makes a difference.

thanks for sharing

my objective is rather to get the customer in and out of the laundromat as fast as possible, and this would only be achieved if the washer and dryer works together very well. base on my research so far, there does not seem to be any volutionary development in dryers so that this machine may reach its best already. but the washer machines seem to have improved since then earlier years. so when will this machine reach its best?

the traditional practice in this industry is that some owners and distributors always said the longer you keep a customer in your store, the more chance they will spend more money. my thought is that the more people i can get people through the store, the more money the store could be earning; a store has a limited space for customers occupation, the more customers that are in the store, the fewer the customers will be coming thru.

[Xiong]

Originally Posted by ldm

I went with SQ Horizons v. Continental partially becasue one of the sales guys confirmed the small Continental had a problem with small loads going off balance. Not good, especially in an unattended store. Les

does the continental rep said that or is the competiting rep said that?

[ldm]

Originally Posted by Xiong

does the continental rep said that or is the competiting rep said that?

The Continental rep confirmed this after my due diligence revealed this potential problem with their small machine. It was a direct answer to my specific question. Les

[MrMachine]

Originally Posted by Xiong

thanks for sharing

my objective is rather to get the customer in and out of the laundromat as fast as possible, and this would only be achieved if the washer and dryer works together very well. base on my research so far, there does not seem to be any volutionary development in dryers so that this machine may reach its best already. but the washer machines seem to have improved since then earlier years. so when will this machine reach its best?

the traditional practice in this industry is that some owners and distributors always said the longer you keep a customer in your store, the more chance they will spend more money. my thought is that the more people i can get people through the store, the more money the store could be earning; a store has a limited space for customers occupation, the more customers that are in the store, the fewer the customers will be coming thru.

I agree...in and out as quickly as possible to make room for more customers spending money. Many customers themselves share the same view because they view laundry more as a chore than something more pleasant such as shopping for clothing.
However, some do not. Some people feel cheated unless they are getting a full cycle 30 minute wash. If they don't, you won't see them again.

[Xiong]

Originally Posted by ldm

The Continental rep confirmed this after my due diligence revealed this potential problem with their small machine. It was a direct answer to my specific question. Les

that's an honest rep then
we should have more reps like that

does the horizon has unbalanced issue?
it's also a southmount too, at 300G as the EH020

[Xiong]

Originally Posted by MrMachine

I agree...in and out as quickly as possible to make room for more customers spending money. Many customers themselves share the same view because they view laundry more as a chore than something more pleasant such as shopping for clothing.
However, some do not. Some people feel cheated unless they are getting a full cycle 30 minute wash. If they don't, you won't see them again.

i think i can live without the few that does not share

the videos keep comparing that you could do 4 cycles per hour, but do not tell you what the length of the cycle though

[Howard]

Originally Posted by MrMachine

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However, some do not. Some people feel cheated unless they are getting a full cycle 30 minute wash. If they don't, you won't see them again.

So very true, that is why you need to know your customers. I found this out the hard way years ago when I installed a pair of W125 washers in the back of my store. My other triples were W124 machines. The W125's were hooked directly to the main water line where it came in the building. The water pressure was so much high there that the machines filled super fast. The cycle time was at least five minutes shorter than the W124 machines because of this. Customers felt cheated and stopped using these machines. At one point I even put signs up over the W124 machines that the two triples in the back were on sale at $1.00 less per wash -- did not change usage at all. Raised prices back up and used these mostly for wash and fold, even after I throttled back the shut off valves to slow the fill people did not want to use them.

[ldm]

Originally Posted by Xiong

that's an honest rep then
we should have more reps like that

does the horizon has unbalanced issue?
it's also a southmount too, at 300G as the EH020

The Horizon has not had an off balance issue that has been brought to my attention. 300 G force yes. See my recent thread under General Topics for more info. on the Horizon's I have. Les

[MrMachine]

Originally Posted by Xiong

i think i can live without the few that does not share

the videos keep comparing that you could do 4 cycles per hour, but do not tell you what the length of the cycle though

Be careful about that. There are more people who seek a "quality wash" than you may think. At least here in NYC where it's extremely competitive.

For instance, I know that the Dexter Distributor here in NYC, Gold Coin, will program the washers in a new store for 30 minutes, even though they come from the factory with a shorter cycle. He even told me that if you do things like cut baths, to always add more wash time and/or spin time to bring the cycle back up to 30 minutes.

[jh]

Originally Posted by MrMachine

Be careful about that. There are more people who seek a "quality wash" than you may think. At least here in NYC where it's extremely competitive.

That's true. More than 99% of my customers here have chosen regular washes against the Quick Wash. Only a few prefers a quicker wash. I've added 1 wash and 1 rinse programs to one side of my store. We are currently using these programs (Quick-cold, Quick-warm, Quick-hot) for most of the w/d/f. If we receive no complaint from the drop-off customers, I will release it for public use. Bottom line is that, if you can, try to satisfy all the customers. There is room for 10 wash programs in my washers. There's no reason not to use that advantage.